The tale of a Bigfoot fetus?

If Bigfoot have opposable thumbs, we're in trouble.

If you are not a fan of rumor and conjecture, you aren’t going to like today’s post because that’s all I have.  In addition, if you’re not one of my Bigfoot (BF) readers, you’re really not going to like today’s post because rumor and conjecture are swirling around the big guy, or should I say big gal.  The distinction will make sense as you read on.

Now, there are a number of sources for what you will see on this blog today, and I don’t have qualified verification for any of their claims. Granted, I’m of the position that the only verification that is worthwhile is actual physical proof, so even if I did have multiple sources that I trusted, I would advice that you view all of this with a skeptical eye.  On with the story.

Those of you with an interest in BF are probably well aware of Dr. Melba Ketchum (Dr. K) and her DNA study. I wrote about it initially in a post called The Ketchum Report.  Dr. K has become somewhat of a folk hero among a majority of the BF devotees.  She has done something that only a select few have done before her; apply science to the BF question.  Her report has been frustratingly dangled in front of the BF community as a carrot of hope for a few years now.   There has been plenty of buzz about the report and what it says, but there has been no actual report produced.  Proponents will tell you that it is because this is a paper that has been submitted for peer review to a scientific journal, and these things take time.  I’ve made this argument myself.  Opponents say the delays are simply due to the fact that Dr. K’s paper reveals nothing, so she and her cohorts are milking as much publicity out of this as possible.  The two sides have been waging a war of words virtually since the first hints of the DNA study.  For Dr. K’s part, she’s said remarkably little about the study.  Her reason for keeping quiet?  Scientific journals don’t like a lot of pre-publication chatter about the studies they publish.  They tend to prefer that the science take center stage and not over-hyped sensationalism.   A study about a living non-human 8’ tall bipedal hominid comes with a lot of tabloid baggage, and that a scientific journal of any merit would give it serious consideration is a miracle in and of itself, which leads us to our first rumor.

Blogger Robert Lindsay has been cranking out some fascinating posts about Dr. K and her study for some time now. Lindsay is an interesting character. The number of people who revile him is only matched by the number of people who admire him.  To put it kindly, he is a lightning rod of controversy.  I dare say if you ever read his blog, you will find something that will disgust and anger you.  And, that is exactly how Lindsay wants it.  In the interest of complete disclosure, I don’t like his views on race or politics, but I can’t help but like him.  He’s an open book and there’s something inherently likable about that.

Lindsay has much more faith in his sources than I do.  He’s started a number of his posts with “We can now report.”  Meaning, he’s confident enough in his sources to share their information as fact.  He started his latest blog post on BF, Bigfoot News October 10, 2011, in just such a way.  In this particular post, he is making the claim that the science journal Nature has accepted Dr. K’s (and her co-authors) paper for review.  Normally, I would pass this off as wishful thinking by Lindsay’s source, but I was contacted on this blog and via private messaging by an individual weeks ago insisting the paper was under peer review by Nature.  Is my source the same individual?  I don’t know, but I do find it interesting that Lindsay, and I both received the same information.  I didn’t report on it then, because there was just no way for me to confirm it.  I present it to you here as still unconfirmed information.

The second part of the Nature rumor is the second most sensational thing you will read here today.  Lindsay is reporting that the editors of the journal called Dr. K in for a meeting with them at their headquarters in London.  Separately, an AJ Ciani reported on the BF Forums that Dr. K met with members of a review panel in Europe.  Again, how reliable the sources are in this case is unknown.  If true, it is an unprecedented move by a scientific journal.  They don’t meet with the authors of a study as a rule, and this has skeptics dismissing the rumors out of hand.  I am of the belief if Dr. K’s study has met all criteria and is credible, they would almost have to meet with her and members of her team before publishing a paper about a topic that is usually relegated to the pages of tabloid magazines.  If the paper unquestionably proves the existence of such a creature, they must take every precaution before publication.  But that’s just my opinion.

Now for the most sensational thing you will read here today.  I wrote an article for Blogcritics titled The Mystery Over The Existence of Bigfoot Continues.  In that article, I talked about a man by the name of Justin Smeja and his claim that he shot and killed two BF creatures in the Sierra Mountains in California.  His story would have been tucked away as complete nonsense if not for the Olympic Project (OP). The OP is a group of BF researches that has a stellar reputation within the BF community. They verified Smeja’s story. Smeja, in fact, joined their group after contacting them about his story.  Without boring you with all the details, Smeja didn’t just have a story, he had a specimen.  What that specimen actually is, has come under some speculation.  Smeja claims publicly that it is a piece of flesh from the thigh of the adult that was killed (an adult and juvenile were supposedly killed).  He cut a piece from this specimen and sent it to Dr. K to include in her study, and “read between the lines” statements from Smeja and the OP suggest that the sample did match other samples in the study as being from a BF.

Things started to get weird (believe it or not, I haven’t even scratched the surface of weird yet) when the OP talked about the gender of the adult.  It was referred to as “she,” on a number of occasions, but at some point, an emphasis was made that the gender could not be disclosed because of a nondisclosure agreement (NDA).  Some of us wondered publicly why the gender would come under an NDA.  What possible difference could it make?  It just didn’t make sense, until this week.  It was revealed in a public chat group that the adult that was allegedly shot was indeed a pregnant female.  Now, Smeja originally claimed he saw the adult at a distance of 80 yards through his rifle scope, and by his own admission, he didn’t know what it was beyond describing it as a monster.  Once he shot the BF, it ran off, never to be seen whole again.  He found the flesh sometime later.  How then could he know that the BF was pregnant?  Asking that question led to the revelation that a fetus may have been recovered from the shooting.  While this sounds completely whacky, it does match up with previous claims that they have hair, flesh, blood and bones included in Dr. K’s study.  Before Smeja’s Sierra shooting story, the only things mentioned in the study were blood, saliva and hair.  After Smeja’s story, flesh and bone were included in the samples description.

I have to reiterate.  What you read here today is not presented as fact in any way.  These are all public conversations currently going on throughout the BF community.  Skeptics are having a good laugh and marveling at the gullibility of those who believe in BF.  But, I can tell you that very few of those involved in the conversation are accepting it for anything other than what it is, speculation. Dr. K is not talking, and I can tell you from personal experience people with connections to the study are giving  the standard, “I cannot confirm or deny” response to inquiries.  For now, this is just an interesting collection of stories.  Nothing can be verified beyond a shadow of a doubt until Dr. K’s paper is published.

Did a hunter kill a female Bigfoot and her offspring?

Don’t worry. It’s a photoshopped image.

I hate to do this to you non-Bigfooters, but I have to mark my return to the blog with a post about Bigfoot.  I know, I know.  My last post was about a Bigfoot press conference that we all knew was going to be bogus, so how can I possibly have the gnads to stay away so long only to bring more news on the topic?  Because it’s my blog, and I can ruin it anyway I want to.  I’ll be posting very soon about a new contest where I will be giving away prizes.  It has to do with The Man Who Saved Two Notch, so if you haven’t read it, you might want to start.  If you don’t have a Kindle, you can download an app for your computer to read it here; Free Kindle Reading Apps. And if you haven’t voted in my poll, you can do so
here; Want to win a prize? I’m celebrating the release of The Man Who Saved Two Notch on Kindle!  Now, back to our giant, hairy, biped friend.

The Bigfoot community is awash with kooks and wild claims that are usually ignored by even the most desperate of believers (BTW – I know the term believer hits a sour note with most Bigfoot researchers, but I find myself not caring.  Until indisputable proof is studied and confirmed, we’re all just believers. That’s the reality.  You look kind of silly fighting that fact.) .  Sometimes we’re fooled, but I dare say not as much as the general public is on the subject. For example, the Bigfoot in the freezer sham that occurred a few years ago was laughed at by most believers almost as soon as the story broke.  But for some inexplicable reason the mainstream media ran with it.  Bigfooters everywhere were scratching their heads.

A new bizarre tale of woe and intrigue has surfaced in the world of Bigfoot.  It’s long and involved and appears to have a multitude of major Bigfoot players involved.  More importantly, it gives legs to the rumors that there actually may be Bigfoot DNA in the hands of bona fide scientists.

The story plays out like a soap opera and comes from a blogger by the name of Robert Lindsay.   He claims to have talked with an unidentified,
but well connected man within the Bigfoot research circles that include the Erickson Project and Olympic Project, both of which have several DNA samples that have been analyzed by Dr. Melba Ketchum.  Those samples (as well as samples collected by other researchers such as Dave Paulides) have been included in a study by Dr. Ketchum and submitted for peer review so no one is talking until the study has been picked apart by the
scientific and academic communities.

I must pause here to tell you that I don’t know Robert.  We’ve had a couple of email exchanges, but that’s it.  I’ve perused his blog, and I have to admit I am uncomfortable with some of his views, particularly on race.  Instead of me misquoting him, this comes directly from his blog’s “About” section:

I have been called a liberal race realist. Liberal race realism is described as “a dash of race realism, positive white racial identity, the leftist view of American history, anti-racism, and a base of liberalism.”… I admit I am what is called a “liberal racist.” I am also a “White man’s burden” racist, which is pretty much the same thing. I am also a “scientific racist,”  but I just call that telling the truth. In addition, I am a “colorblind  racist.” I’m comfortable with these political errors of thought.

I give you this information because I think the blogger is as much the story here as the story itself.  He’s not the type to hold back even at the
peril of his own reputation. That doesn’t mean he’s not capable of lying just because he’s forthright about his own views.  But it does lead one to believe that he holds honesty, no matter how unsavory, in high regard.  Don’t mistake that for admiration on my part.  It’s just an observation.

In so far as Robert’s connection, a person may have dismissed his claims – which I’ll spell out shortly -, but for one thing.  A number of people have come out verifying his story.  And this is despite the fact the man is unidentified.  His claims?  The man known simply as Bear Hunter claims that a hunter in California (near the Nevada border) shot and killed a mother Bigfoot and one of her offspring in November of 2010.  This claim seems to be supported by at the very least the Olympic Project, and may have even been referenced by Adrian Erickson in an interview long before Bear Hunter came forward with the story.

What happened after the shooting is unclear.  The only thing that is known for sure is that the hunter first made the shooting public on a taxidermy messageboard.  The story the man presented was that he was regretful and conflicted because he thought he may be arrested for killing the two creatures.  Except for the hair covered bodies and various other features, they appeared to be human.  He shot them, he says, because he thought they were bears.  Since Robert’s story, however, a witness to the shooting has come forward and claimed the hunter maliciously  shot the creatures.  In fact, he had to be physically restrained from killing a third animal described as a juvenile.

What happened to the bodies has become a mystery.  The shooter said he left them and wanted nothing to do with them.  Others say that he is in possession of the bodies and gave a sample cut from the thigh of the adult to the Olympic Project.  Still others say the man is a member of the Olympic Project.  The sample story does have some weight because according to, again, another unnamed source, Dr. Ketchum did receive
a hair covered sample that appeared to be cut from a thigh.

Now, outrage abounds within the Bigfoot community because it is so bizarre.  Members of the Olympic Project have actually verified the most sensational part of the story.  They say two bipedal hairy animals were indeed shot and killed by a hunter.  They seem to confuse matters by claiming they returned to the site of the shooting and while they didn’t find any bodies, they did find a chunk of a thigh that they sent to Dr. Ketchum.

Is any part of this story true? With the one exception that California does indeed border Nevada, I can’t tell you for sure.  It seems outrageous and fantastical, and I tend to doubt most of it, but I also doubted that a smart young congressman from New York would send pictures of his penis via Twitter to some woman he didn’t even know.  Crazier things have happened.

Here are the various links to stories and discussions about this topic if you’re interested:

New Erickson Project News: Bigfoot DNA Project Using Two Dead Bigfoot Bodies for Samples

Bear Hunter Interview Part 2: More Outrageous Bigfoot Allegations and Revelations

Chronology of the Recent Bigfoot Shooting Story